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: appreciate it. edward tweeted us to say for six years, six years, obama said the bush tax cuts are bad, drop bush's name, and, now, the tax cuts are good. how can this be? it's teresting, isn't it? that's all for us. have a great weekend. we'll see you monday. good night from new ♪ neil: sometimes you can sum up a week with a couple words, but this week, it's with this ad. >> cutting hundreds of billions of dollars from medicare and medicaid short change the people who need it the most. if you don't want seniors to come up empty, call your members of congress and tell them don't make a bad deal that cuts our care. neil: if that doesn't tell you real cuts are not coming, neighbor 101 democratic congressman want not to cut social security could drop a hint coming days after the national black cau cues coming further urging all entitlements, not just social security, be left off the cliff talks. you wonder why i fear we had headed for the cliff fast. welcome, evybody, i'm neil cavuto. that's really the deal this week. no deal this week. hence, that if one of the seriously coming behind closed
who ran a campaign with president obama cutting $716 billion out of medicare, all the sudden want tremendous cuts in medicare. i think we'll get a deal. we have to. i think the president understands that. neil: i know we have to, but we've been this way before. here's my worry, that a bad deal could be worse than no deal. a bad deal, let's say there's cuts, and i don't envision many, your comment, though, withstanding, because i don't see the resolve for it because even slowing growth in a program is opposed by unions, the congressional black caucus, 101 democratic congressmen, when it comes to social security, whether that should or shouldn't be part of the discussion is going to remain as a zeal to raise taxes over cutting spending. that's what worries me. >> well, you know, neil, i sit here in the financial markets, and so my concern all the time is protecting and preserving individuals and corporations' wealth. i look at this, how does it affect the market, and to your point about if this is a bad deal, wher there's, you know, no spending cuts, increase in taxes, i think the m
on the entitlements they feel entitled too, and they will hold barack obama accountable if the spending cuts are more than they would like. >> neil, unions don't have a point, but propaganda. that ad leads up to a day of action from the union on december0 #th, you know, that never turns out well, does it? i mean, g.o.p., i think, loses on the issue because they are basically siding with the unions wanting to extend, preserve, and protect entitlement programs. they should tke aage from george bushing and move twards privatizing eitlements giving ownership. th own a safety net that's nothing. it's empty. that's why the system is collapsingn itself. >> i think john's rnc sighing a breath of relief you are not in charge of the campaign. that's political suici. neil: there's aoint of losi resolve, their mojo. that used to be the stuff in dna to show responsibility. >> we talked about this. you have jim demint leaving the senate saying i'm more effective at the heritage foundation, the tea party and others do not want deal. neil: worked under harry reid. >> well, no, no, he filibustered -- neil: no mystery
imminent if we don't cut spending and entitlements . obama is a bully, inflection i believe, making demands we can't accept because his demands involve spending increases, no spending reductions, tax increases on two percent of people who won't do anything with revenues. it's totally unacceptable. at least under the fiscal cliff we have some mandatory cut, albeit us proportionately to defense spending. but it's better than accepting obama's terms crammed down our throat. boehner needs to get a told of this pr machine and paint obama as the one who is holding the country hostage. he wants to talk about holding the middle class hostage. no, it's him holding the entire country hostage and our kids hostage to his reckless spending and cynical refusal to enter the entitlement reform game. >> i don't even want to hear more about taxes. juan, shaking your head. >> i hear you, gentlemen. you guys are wonderful. merry christmas. but sean you said hyperpartisanship, and david talks about inflexibility. you know, and i'm thinking to myself, gee, where have i seen this before? i see it on the r
, is is the b plan -- $25.2 trillion by 2022. mr. obama wants $350 billn in entitlement cuts over the next ten years, mr. boehner wants $800 billion in entitlement cuts, and we're going to see a big, dramatic negotiation. and whatou and i is -- and all of our fellow americans are looking at is the prospect of a recession next year if the president and mr. boehner can't come to an agreement, as much as a 10% unemployment rate because both this president and the republican party, as you can see here, are playing at the margin. and the national media is not focusing on what the realy is. they're just playing games right in washingn.he folks in office andhis president is guilty of class warfare. fo what? for that? are you kidding me? president obama seems to love the drama. i thought he dn't like drama. but the reality iss there will e is little impa our fiscal future. and as nation, after all of the drama and whatever the outcome, we remain in geat jeopardy. because this isn't a fiscal future any of us, any of us wants. >>> morsi declares martial law in gypt and claims he's not a dictator. the
.8, oh, no, that's going to get cut down. it'll amount to $25.4 trillion. if, we'll call it obama wins. the national media waiting for that one. that's what's going to be. it's going to be a really dramatic -- you know, i ought to just trace that line, the change and show you exactly how it changes. this is how that line changes over the course of the next ten years, if the president wins. unfortunately, neither party is offering a serious proposal to trim either our deficit or our debt. the obama plan has $2 trillion in deficit reduction over the next ten years. the boehner plan goes for $2 trillion in deficit reduction, boehner wants, oh, yeah, he's going to kkck tail, all right? we're going to get $2.2 billion in the spending of this country. let me rephrase that. that'll be a $2.2 trillion reduction in the total planned spending. the growth of our spending will alter, it'll be just about that line right there. we're potentially looking at the republican plan, well, in 2020, i guess the best way to show you is just how tough it is. we'll only have a deficit and a debt, a national de
been. what d the obama arithmetic that $1 trillion we have already cut. >> 800 billion for the board that would be financed anyway, there has to be re cuts happening at the same time. neil: rudy guiliani. i am headed to whington to save us from t mess. be where. i am coming. but we c still help you see your big picture. with the fidelity guided portfolio summary, you choose which accounts to track and use fidelity's analytics to spot trends, gain insights, and figure out what you want to do next. all inne place. i'm meredith stoddard and i helped create the fidelity guided portfolio summary. it's one more innovative reason serious investors now get 200 free trades when you open an account. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day... block the acid with priloseotc and don'tet heartburn in the firsplace! [ male annncer ] e pill eachmorning. 4 hours. zero heartbur neil: as if i am n busy enough but this super heroes day is never done after talking to astronauts now trying to get washi
distracts with negative ads to hide his support for obama care, which cuts medicare by $500 billion. >> that was 2010. fast forward to this year's election and the same principle carries through. each side tried to convince voters that the other guy wanted to take the hatchet to medicare. >> the biggest, coldest power play of all in obama care came at the expense of the elderly. $716 billion, funneled out of medicare by president obama >> my plan's already extended medicare by nearly a decade. their plan ends medicare as we know it. >> on medicare, for current retirees, he's cutting $716 billion from the program. i can't understand how you can cut medicare $716 billion for current recipients of medicare. >> look, these guys haven't been big on medicare from the beginning. their party's not big on medicare from the beginning. folks, use your common sense. who do you trust on this? >> so, now, of course, given all the campaign rhetoric coming from both sides, we are on the other side of an election that proved that there is a bipartisan consensus, that it is bad to be the kind of poli
rates they want, the medicare cuts they want, the trillion dollars in spending cuts president obama agreed to, hundreds of billions in additional cuts, ending the payroll tax break, ending jobless benefits and they get the opportunity to create a new debt ceiling crisis in a few months. that's on the republican side, what the republicans get in their proposal. what do the democrats get in their proposal? they get this. a promise to end undefined tax deductions and loopholes of some kind at some point maybe next year e. ta da! a fair and balanced middle ground. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> yes. balance. here's the amazing part, though. after congressional republicans released their plan yesterday, which gives them everything they want and promises democrats that they might get something undefined that they might want maybe some time in the future. we'll talk about it later. after they put forth that sweet deal, this was the reaction from the beltway's conservative class. this is genius. sad ly, this plan leaves conservatives wanting.
: appreciate it. edward tweeted us to say for s years, six years, obama said the bush tax cuts are bad, drop bush's name, and, now, the tax cuts are good. how can this be? it's interesting, isn't it? that's all for us. have a great weekend. we'll see you monday. good night from new he said the. 40 years back. what are we now? 9:00 p.m. sunday. fox news. relive the dream dream again. >> the federal government will conduct a national test of the emergen alert system. >> you cannot avoid it. it is everywhere. john: does it make you feel safe the government spent 40 years studying the assault assault -- soap. do we need government to protect workers? >> absolutely. next? -- question. [laughter] >> good intentions and gone wrong. that is e show. tonight. john: politians claimed they make life better to pass laws. they have good intentions but we should not judge by intention. politicians good intentions go wrong. work regulation. companies are not greedy they don't care about their workers but seems reasonable government has tprotect them. almost everybody agrees. >> they should be protected. def
political position. when we go over the cliff as matter of law the obama tax cuts expire. we have sequestration where these drastic cuts take place but the president politically knows that even if it a deal is made in january, february on spending they can be made retroactively. so the president believes he is in a much better position on spending than he is today in making a deal because any deal that they make will be retroactive. adam: let me flip your logic. do you think politically i don't think it would be good economically, politically good for the republicans to call the bluff, go over the cliff. yes, there is short-term pain come 2014, midterm's election the president's economy. the president gets responsibility for what happens after the cliff drops. wouldn't that be the political move to make if you're john boehner? >> we really have no choice. president is in the driver's seat and boehner is hostage in the back seat with the president with his foot on the gas. nothing the speaker can do, other than perhaps, i think it would be politically wise for the house to pass a b
's according to a news pal. 51% say president obama and congress will cut a deal to prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. john boehner says he still has serious differences with the president after they exchanged new counteroffers apparently and talked on the phone last night. now some house republicans are vowing to work through the holidays to get the deal done. ed henry is live at the white house. that's a motivator i suppose, lose your christmas. >> normally when there is a holiday like that, you're right. this forces them to come to the table. right now they are still pretty far apart. there was a phone call you last night between the president and the speaker. officials on both sides telling me tonight the call was pretty tense because the bottom line is they are still not finding common ground. you listen to the speaker today, jay carney from the white house podium, they're still saying that they're farther apart on both spending cuts and tax increases. take a listen. >> mainly tax hikes. and as planned is it not begin to solve our debt crisis. it actually increases spending. >>
differences, that is the assessment from house speaker john boehner, saying he and president obama have their work cut out for them, is it time to get counselling, here is what some are tweeting the show. jason said, congress members are all spoiled and bratty kids, they need a firm hand to their back side, they should get paid for what they get done, no more salary. >> they need to get their heads out of politics and do what is right for the country. >> and does congress need counselling? 90% said yes, 10% said no. must have been their parents,. >> dave writes, medicare and social security are retirement programs we've been paying into for 40 years. >> i am 73 years old, and am sick of off
for shareholders. i think in this case speaking out against obama care which is a substantial costs that weigh onrofits is something they should do. it is proprofit to talk about a law to let the nation know and lawmakers know what will cut in profits and so in this case, i think they should speak out. i question whether lower sales are relate to obama care. >> that's what they are saying. the hit ty took from the press about critizing obama care led to people not frequenting their restaurants. john and i could mike a point of buying humus from whole food because we support the libitarian viewsf the chairman. but there is it the guy who applied the pizza toppin voted republican once. let's boycott it it cuts both ways. >> by the way morgan, it is not only olive garden but papa john. >> bad press is bad for business. the ceo came out and said obama care would lead to 14 cents more per pie and one of our reporters didhe math metics and fnd it was four cents a pie . since then. since then, the ceo back tracked and it makes the company look silly and greed. we are seeing that blo back. >> but the
to 1 margin, voters believe by enacting mostly spending cuts is the best way to deal with the problem. president obama continue its push his ultimatum on higher taxes for wealthy, and republican leaders responding by warning their members to be prepared for christmas in washington because of the stalemate. and joining us now, congressman devon nunez, a member of house aways and means committee. speaker saying they are separated by serious gaps here, what are your thoughts? >> i came on this show two weeks ago, i told you then that president wanted to go cliff diving, that is what he wants to do. he is not serious about getting a deal, if he was so serious, he would not have met with john boehner sunday morning then go out 24 hours later on a campaign stop to michigan railing about some middle class tax hike jarg onljargon he is using. he wants to go off the cliff,. lou: looking at that number. newest fox poll released a couple hours ago, that polls poe 5-- say 57% say that best way to deal with budget is with dedictions, and then, what we're seeing in these numbers is, if not direct s
ago on msnbc's "morning joe," president obama's senior adviser cut off his mustache for a good cause, agreed to shave after raising more than a million dollars for epilepsy research. his wife runs a nonprofit organization dedicated to that cause. their oldest son has epilepsy. i think david looks good. >> a man can go without a mustache, but certainly a worthy cause for him to give it up. >> that mustache is older than i am, charlie. >> i won't ask. >>> it is hard to imagine why anyone would confess to a crime that they would not commit, but it does happen a lot, especially in chicago. this sunday, "60 minutes" looks why this city has seen twice as many false confession cases as any other. byron pitts interviewed one man after being exonerated after spending 15 years in prison. >> 17, still in high school, never been in serious trouble when another teenager from his neighborhood implicated him, vincent, michael and harold in the rape and murder of a 30-year-old prostitute named nina glover. >> did anyone ask you, did you murder this woman? >> that was the first thing they said. rape
says president obama believes he can cut a deal with house republicans to keep from all going over the fiscal cliff. the president is refusing to compromise on letting tax cuts expire on incomes of more than $250,000 a year. g.o.p. leaders are calling that a job killer and a deal breaker. of course, if we fall off the fiscal cliff, we'll all die, right? actually, taxes will go up for pretty much everybody and automatic spending cuts kick in on knew year's day. the president and the house speaker met face-to-face just yesterday for the first time since the election, but are they talking about it? no. today an aide said the speaker is willing and still waiting for counteroffer from the president. ed henry is live at the white house. i don't know, ed. a meeting happens and nobody says anything. this could be seen as something more good than bad. >> reporter: exactly. because they didn't come out of the meeting beating each other up and saying i'm never going to sign a deal with the other guy. the fact that they're keeping this quiet, hush hush for now in terms of the details of what t
you think -- look. it's fairly aapparent that barack obama has put no meaningful cuts, spending cuts on the table. anybody who pays attention knows that. the president does not want a cut. he wants the big government. he wants to spend. in fact, he wants 500 million more to throw into some stimulus that hasn't worked the first two times he tried it. why do the american people say it's the g.o.p.'s fault when the president obviously isn't giving anything at all up? >> well, bill you know that and i know that in part because we watch fox news, and fox news reports it that way which is the straight forward way to report it. you can find that out from the other media, but you have to read it carefully because it's not apparent. all the conversation, all the discussion, all the news that's made in this whole discussion since the end of the election has been about what? it's been about tax rates on the rich. >> bill: right. >> that's been the whole story. the fact that the president hasn't come forward with anything meaningful on the spending side, especially on the entitlement side, it's
thinking -- >> what they are saying is that obama will have to give more, than entitlement cuts and spending cuts and republicans might have to acquiesce to tax hikes. lou: what is the republican party coming, monica used expression political party suicide, i don't know if that drastic but there is a defeatism i find astonishing. >> they hope to stan strong together in one message, we need a warrior that is why i'm delighted that jim demint is leaving and going to the heritage foundation, we don't have a clear champion on our issue, senator rubio does a great job but we need more out there jan the kuh cuban guy from florida. lou: i tell you, right now, i may be insulting a lot of people, but he is the most ex fisk communicate or -- effective communicate or the republican party has but he is not talking about the fiscal cliff. >> he said we have to did is not create new taxes but new tax payers, not make the richer poorer but the poorer richer. lou: that is a great slogan. >> you have to create policy, we're 25 days away from the fiscal cliff. >> to your original question about l
at is people, perhaps, moving to get ahead of the obama administration's new and highly unattractive tax plan for investors. big winners on the day, financials, citi group stock up after announcing they are laying off 4% of the work force, cutting cost, bank of america and travelers example of the financialses moving higher. marathon, chevron, conoco all higher. crude oil down for a second straight day closing under 88 a barrel, and ten year treasury down to 1.59%. no progress in resolving the fiscal cliff today. i know, you're not surprised by that, but we can report there were, well, some contact between the two principle players in the negotiations if there were negotiations. president obama and speaker john boehner actually talked to one another. it was on the telephone. it was not the face-to-face meeting the speaker says is necessary, but it was the first time that the two men have spoken in a week. for the latest on these stalled negotiations, we turn to fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry for the report. >> trying to lay blame for stalled budget talks on republicans, pre
and spending cuts happen on january 1st. president obama visited a northern virginia family who would suffer finally if a -- financially if a deal isn't reached. the president's approval rating is at its highest point since the raid that killdee killed osama bin laden. 42% believe the nation is heading in the right direction. >>> the san diego zoo two new additions. they're 14 week old clouded leopard cubs and their adorable. they are brothers and playful. they like to pounce on each other and climb and use each other as trampolines. they arrived earlier from the nashville view where there's a successful breeding program saying hello for the endangering expertise. they are adorable but grow into big guys. >> you want to take them home until they get really big. >> and send them back to the zoo. >> it's 5:20 hoping to stop the slide. did the raiders beat the broncos in oakland last night. >> i think we all know. >>> he's back at it, the dunk by lebron james that has earned our play of the day. >> did the raiders play in oakland yesterday, that's a better question. here's your snow report. if
a budget in three years. never had a budget. i think the senate democrats and president obama, want us to go over the fiscal cliff, they get a bunch of revenue, and return in dribs and drabs on the american middle class, they keep the majority of revenue, spending cuts can be finessed. lou: we looked at total spending under boehner plan and as we understand them obama plan, and no plan, they end ought about the -- end at about the same place in 2022. this is madness. >> the obama drama that is surrounding this negotiation. over an inconsequential increase of a tax over 2%, and no affect, across 10 years of national debt that is madness. >> this is nuts, it is unnecessary, but this is politics, it has nothing to do with policy. lou: and who is the beneficiary of that? >> well, look, president obama ran on this he was elected with a margin that is substantial enough to warrant this public opinion supports him, public opinion supports his position, and public opinion will support obama over the republicans if we go over the cliff, he will go over the cliff rather than take a bad deal. and
are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house slow-walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> president obama responded, showing republicans where they could find the details. >> it's not a mystery. we've seen this before. this is the document that contains the specific spending cuts. the speaker of the house sent us a proposal that was two pages long that included one sentence on revenue. the proposal here includes, i believe from pages 17 to 45, details on proposed spending cuts by the president, pages 17 to 45. i recommend them to you. >> so, at this point, a deal before christmas looking unlikely. as senate majority leader harry reid admitted yesterday. but in an interview with barbara walters, president obama predicted that republicans would eventually give in on taxes. >> the most important thing we can do is make sure the middle class taxes do not go up on january 1st, and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high-income individuals. >> prediction. are you going to be able
right. 19 minutes after the top of the hour. moving on, president obama's offer on the fiscal cliff cuts billions in defense spending. colonel oliver north says that will lead to disaster. he is here next. and tony hawk is here to show us a few new tricks, including one for all those parents out there whose kids will think are cool. i don't know if i'd do it in the rain, but he can. he's a prompt but olympic gabby douglas is here. a huge show! i think shaq in the house, too. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >> gretchen: 23 minutes after the top of the hour. james holmes expected to appear in court today. this will be the first time we look at him since he was taken to the hospital f
and the white house backed military cuts and the new fiscal cliff counteroffer to president obama is hinting at billions more. $500 billion over the next ten years! in addition to the stuff they already cut. joining us now it expand this fox news contributor and author of "heros proved," colonel oliver north. he says this could be an unmitigated disaster for national security. as you travel around in the bus on the book tour, this has got to be bothering you more than anything else. this is your legacy. these are the people that you've covered and this is how prepared we are for a future conflict. >> just over the weekend we saw the rescue of an american doctor from colorado in afghanistan by a u.s. navy raid seal team. right? same guys i was with just a few weeks ago out in afghanistan working with afghan troops. what you're about to see in this sequester are cuts that will make those operations impossible. benghazi. people were talking why didn't they react to benghazi? because there was no marine expedition in the area. that will become commonplace with sequester. one more carrier battle
owners with us today are here to highlight president obama's demand to raise tax rates instead of cutting spending. his plan will hurt nearly 1 million small businesses around our country. that will affect hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> reporter: and guys, there are republicans here on capitol hill who are urging the speaker to cut a deal with the president. i talked to one of the earliest republicans to say, you know what, let's take a the president up on his offer to extend the bush tax cuts for everybody under $250,000 and at least take that uncertainty off the table and then continue to negotiate the rest to have later. some of the republicans are now coalessing around that view that they should give into what the president is suggesting, at least temporarily, and continue to negotiate on the rest because there's a lot of political pain here for republicans if we do get to the point where we go over the cliff because of those higher tax rate pateryers, guys. >> all right, eamon. thank you. >> the talk continues, but none of it face to face. be sure to catch a live interview with on
says that. >> eric: president obama offered zero credible spending cuts. zero. he said, we'll defer spending cuts ten, 20 years down the road if we get the tax increases in the meantime. i think it's time -- brit hume had an idea that it may look like the republicans are going to be the problem if we go off the fiscal cliff. i'm going to tend to disagree with what he's going to say. take a listen. >> the american people say it's the gop's fault when the president obviously isn't giving anything at all up. >> well, bill, you know that and i know that in part because we watch fox news and fox news reports it that way, which is the straightforward way to report it. you can find that out from reading other media, but you have to read it carefully because it's not apparent. all the conversation, all the discussion, all the news that's made in this whole discussion since the end of the election has been about what? it's been about tax rates on the rich. >> right. >> that has been the whole story. >> steve: it should be about spending. there are polls that show 60% of americans say go ah
: president obama met with ceos head of the looming deadline for tax cuts and spending cuts. david: a fiscal deal could be reached in a week. rich edson with the latest. it was an off the record meeting. this is a meeting that affects all of us. speak of the business roundtable says all the meetings are off the table and they have the initial remarks live and available to the press. in that the president did say we could settle this issue in a week if republicans relent on their position for taxes. offering $800 billion in tax revenue, coming from only closing loopholes and seductions, no to a tax rate increase for the president says it is making $250,000 or more, tax rates are going up. >> we will not raise them just out of spite, but rather because the need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, think he has an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that could pass both chambers of commerce. if you look at the plans the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. >> high
is talking about the rich in sort of obama terms. obama will come back and say no, we're going to eliminate the tax cuts for the rich. we're just going to give them to the middle class, and that's where they're ahead in public opinion, but i think they're not going to have i any choice. republicans have to stick together. they have to resist the pressure of the white house, and if obama wants to take them over a cliff and wants to inherit a new recession which will destroy his second term, i think they ought to say if that's what you want, mr. president, we'll just do it. >> well said as always. charles krauthammer, thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it. >> it's a pleasure. >>> coming up, jones makes a grand return and gloats about the victory in the election. his speech was nothing short of offensive. we'll play it for you. you'll hear the less than civil rhetoric being spewed by the former green jobs czar. the situation in syria has hit critical mass that president assad is ready to launch chemical weapons on his own people. president obama issued a warning to assad. to assad. w
it when it happens together. >> sean: if they do that, you know and i know the spending cuts aren't coming. what's frustrating to me. speaker boehner co-oped obama's language with raising taxes on the rich. i'm saying, wait a minute, there are things you can do. i thought there was a good piece in the "washington post" today, laying out five steps. stand your ground, go on offense, and pass your plans. >> yeah. one of the things we don't do is, we don't make the point that if we are going to do revenue enhancements, they must be in exchange for spending cuts and should happen together. we can no longer do spending cuts with promised reductions in spending that never happen. >> sean: why aren't we talking about the moral imperative? i think this is a moral imperative. we're borrowing 46 cents of every dollar. we're robbing our children and grandchildren. >> right. >> sean: why isn't that the debate that's front and center? everyone says we ought to raise taxes on the rich. that lasts 8 1/2 days a year. >> obama has co-oped the message, let's raise taxes on the rich, which actually brings ve
. this is not a republican or democrat problem. it's a washington problem. they won't cut spending. i fear republicans are going to raise taxes to pay for president obama's spending. that's wrong. it's not going to work. that leads us over into a debt ceiling disaster and a possible downgrade of the credit rating. tracy: all we're good at is kicking the can. keep fighting the good fight. don't give up. >> we won't, thank you. tracy: good. we're like beckham, kick, kick. when we come back, is try -- is china trying to take over? a look of their moves inside the u.s.. president obama get his way or boehner or either? who knows. the results of a new report next. tracy: the future of our country hinging on our grdlocked congress. does that make you feel better? so far the fiscal plans put forth by the president and speaboehner simply wonnt cut it. a new report out find neither proposal reduces our debt enough to solve our economic crisis putting the country at, well, further risk for another downgrade. anybody want to talk abou august last summer in what will it take to get the house in order? ask alex, r
stands at $16 trillion. it was $10.6 trillion when president obama first took office and it has increased roughly 50% over the course of his first term. now president obama is insisting that any deal on this fiscal cliff which has automatic tax hikes and spending cuts as of january one, they are trying to avert that. he says any deal on this must include an end to the debt ceiling all together. he wants complete power to raise the country's limit by himself. he doesn't want to have to get congressional approval. that is a demand stirring strong response from republicans today. >> the on way we ever cut spending is by using the debate over the debt limit to do it. now the president wants to remove that spur to cut all together. of course, it gets in the way of his spending plans. i can assure you it one happen. the american people want washington to get spending under control and the debt limit is the best tool we have to make the president take that demand seriously. the american people want us to fight to cut spending. it's a fight they deserve and a fight we are happy to have. >> joinin
and the senate and we had clinton, who was a democrat, we put work requirements in welfarr. we cut the number of people on welfare down from about five million to three million. then obama comes in and, so he reinstates it and takes the work requirements out and now people are outraged because we have these people on food stamp. melissa: stop this one next. this one is absolutely insane. thank you so much for coming on tonight. we appreciate your time. >> you bet. melissa: time for today's fuel gauge report. freshwater forecasts expected decline in inventories sent natural gas stocks soaring. a cold front expected to move into the u.s. raising the outlook for natural gas demand. oh, no. >>> freeport-mcmoran is plunging head first into oil. the mining giant is buying plains exploration and mcmoran exploration for a total of $9 billion in cash and stock. freeport will also assume about $11 billion in debt. >>> u.s. oil production reached its highest level in almost 15 years in september. new data from the energy information administration says u.s. crude output averaged 6.5 million barrels a da
tax cuts to expire for income over $250,000. that would let president obama pocket $1 trillion in tax revenue and secure a win on his key priority in the talks. but they would do nothing else. at the end of the year, we would still go over the fiscal cliff. remember, the bush tax cuts are one of the at least stimulative policies in the negotiations. according to the economic policy institute, extending the middle class tax cuts would wipe out only about 11% of the austerity's economic impact. 11%. but all that other stuff, the payroll tax cut, the unemployment insurance, the sequester, all that, that would still be expiring. so come early next year, the economy would likely be entering an austerity-induced recession. markets would be convulsing as they realize our austerity crisis is about to become also a default crisis. and so the economy, as a whole, is going to be going nuts. poll after poll already shows republicans are receiving more blame for the potential failure of the debt talks. and after telling the press they're going to make a strategic decision to use a debt ceiling as
, gentlemen. liz: only three weeks before tax hikes and spinning cuts will take place the fiscal deal is not reached. david: the president and the house speaker meeting. president obama changing his tone a little bit mentioning compromise. peter barnes in washington with the latest. they were saying we believe actions, we have heard so much chatter, we can't really bet on that. >> right now we're just hearing chatter. the president speaks to senate democratic leader harry reid, we have learned. meeting yesterday at the white house with a speaker banner an in a speech in detroia couple of hours go the president extended little olive branch to the republicans. >> i have said i would work with republicans on a plan for economic growth, job creation and reducing our deficits. and some compromise between democrats and republicans, i understand people have a lot of different views, i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> i spoke to an aide to one top republican leader who was a little bit upset by the comment the president would be willing to compromise a little bit. the white house did
to raise the rates? speak of the american people want us to fight to cut spending. it is a fight we are happy to have. >> a house aide said president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke on3 the phone yesterday afternoon, their first conversation a week and since republicans offered $800 billion in new tax revenue and more than a trillion dollars in spending cuts, republicans say they're still waiting on a counter offer from the white house. lori: i wonder if they're talking football. >> it got messy. melissa: the house may be sending the members home t for e president seems to think if they got down to business, it is an easy fix. melissa: we can probably solve this in about a week. melissa: piece of cake. he thinks it is too late to get anything done before the end of the year as both sides are too far apart on key issues. joining us now, financial economist at jefferies. we think it is too late, we're going over the cliff. how come? >> not enough time to address all the issues that need to be addressed. especially they will talk o on a phone only once per week. it has been
conversation, at least from the republican standpoint, is being characterized the wrong way. president obama, the democrats aren't looking to raise anyone's taxes. what they're doing is allowing the bush tax cuts to expire. in other words, allow the tax to go back to where they were when we created jobs. i think, if the republicans are able to say, look, we're willing to allow tax to go for 98% of the nation so that we can talk about entitlements, i think that characterization of the conversation will help them in terms of image because right now it doesn't look as if they care about the middle class. they need to focus in on the fact that they're allowing 98%, the majority of the bush tax cuts to be extended, and they can claim that as a victory. i think you will see a shift in the way people are viewing who's at fault in the fiscal cliff conversation, and you'll be able to have a much more positive attitude about the republicans heading into this so-called battle well hillary clinton in the future. >> l.z. granderson and will cain, thank you, gentlemen. we appreciate it. >> thanks, ted. >>
a tax break and a tax cut, and this is just ludicrous. the american people have spoken. the re-election of president obama validates his particular approach here, which is that middle class people should not have a burden placed upon their shoulders. the working classes should not be punished, and god knows the working poor should not be further marginalized in this economy by trying to give goodies and treats to the republicans. they are playing grinch for -- the grinches who stole the christmas of working class people here, and president obama is trying to talk about the spirit of generosity and common sense of the american people. so what he's been trying to say is, i'm not going to budge, and i think he's got a reassured approach here. the american public has spoken. president obama has girded up his lions and he's digging in his heels. it may be one of these right before the stroke of midnight that he says, look, i have no other choice here. we're not going to have this mexican standoff, so to speak, and i have to get out of the way in the game of chicken. recogniz otherwi
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